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This message was added 5/4/2004:
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I have been contacted by the operator of http://www.pearlsofwealth.com/ezlaptop/ regarding this page. Since she operates a program that goes by the same name as the program that operated at EZlaptop.com and EZlaptop.net, and because her program is in no way affiliated with EZlaptop.com except by name, she feels that this site, which informs people about the ongoing saga of EZlaptop.com/EZlaptop.net and offers a location for all the people who have been affected by the scam that ran at EZlaptop.com and EZlaptop.net, does not deserve to exist. I disagree.
But, I am more than happy to make it clear that the comments expressed here by me are not intended to be regarding her program at http://www.pearlsofwealth.com/ezlaptop/ – I mean only to rever to the now-defunct program that existed at EZlaptop.com and EZlaptop.net, and the problems it has caused.
I am adding this statment to the top, middle, and bottom of both of my pages regarding EZlaptop.com/EZlaptop.net, as a courtesy to the operator of http://www.pearlsofwealth.com/ezlaptop/ – I do not want there to be any confusion – any negative comments made here are NOT about the program at http://www.pearlsofwealth.com/ezlaptop/
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This message was added 2/11/2004:
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IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY SIGNED UP, DO NOT SIGN UP FOR EZLAPTOP.COM.
I cannot say for sure yet whether they are entirely a scam, so everyone who already has an account (that hasn’t been cancelled yet), please keep clicking those links – when you get to 150, let us know what happens!
I just had my account forcibly closed.
I suspected that I had too many referrers or invalid links or something, because my credits seemed too high, so I emailed ezlaptop.com and asked if there was anything wrong, and if so, would they remove the extra credits? I made it clear that I did not believe myself to have done anything wrong and that I wanted to support their company and maintain a positive relationship and an open account.
Their response was to close my account.
Now, I can’t be sure of what happened (I think someone may have used illegal links or I may have had more than 10 referrals, and that’s what I was emailing to find out), but instead of letting me know WHAT was wrong or trying to resolve it, ezlaptop.com just closed my account.
I tried emailing ezlaptop.com several times, discussing the matter in a rational way, making it clear that while I had a guess as to what might have happened, I certainly didn’t break any of their rules myself. I tried discussing the matter as it relates to promoting a positive customer experience and creating an environment of positive customer service, but ezlaptop.com made it clear they are not interested in their customers’ interests or having a positive relationship with the people who are their source of their income.
Whether or not they ever actually send anyone a laptop, because ezlaptop.com is not interested in you beyond your $5, you should NOT do business with them. We can only teach these companies that treating people fairly is what we want by not giving our money to unfair companies.
ezlaptop.com changed its policies to prevent having to give out laptops: On the website, even right now, it encourages you (even on the Terms of Use page) to try to accumulate credits via referrals to reach the (currently) 150 credit goal faster. In fact, when they estimate how long ezlaptop.com expects it to take for someone to earn enough credits, they say that that goal can only be reached by getting a lot of referral credits. ezlaptop.com recently modified its Terms of Use so that when you reach 150 points and try to get your laptop, any credits earned from referrals beyond the first 10 referrals will be removed from your account and you will no longer have the required credits, if you had more than 10 referrals.
There is no way to know how many referrals you have had until you reach 150 credits and get your account closed for having too many referrals. I emailed to ask how many referrals I had, and had my account closed without even reaching 150 credits. If there was anything else wrong with my account, I don’t know it for sure; ezlaptop.com wouldn’t tell me. They just closed my account.
I have done nothing but try to promote a positive reputation for ezlaptop.com in the past, but they had never done anything wrong to me before. Now they have shown that not only are they uninterested in having a positive relationship with their customers, but they are looking for any chance they can get to close people’s accounts.
I will be emailing this message to everyone who has commented here.
IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY SIGNED UP, DO NOT SIGN UP FOR EZLAPTOP.COM.
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Yes, it’s true, I am sometimes a schmuck.
For instance, right after buying my novel, Zoe linked me to ezlaptop.com, as an option to try to replace my broken laptop for $5.
IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY SIGNED UP, DO NOT SIGN UP FOR EZLAPTOP.COM.
I get hundreds of SPAM every day. Actually, I also click through quite a few of them every day because they are funny or actually offer something I am interested in, usually to find that the links are bad, and no, I can’t get my allergies enlarged or get debt reduction without a prescription. Sigh.
IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY SIGNED UP, DO NOT SIGN UP FOR EZLAPTOP.COM.
So, for a $5 signup fee (this is like buying 5 lottery tickets, right? It’s a gamble) and 1, 2, or 3 emails a week (I opted for three, what the heck), each of which contains a link that must be followed in order to earn ‘credits’ (1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 credits per link), once I ‘earn’ enough ‘credits’ (150 right now, but their TOS says they can change that at any time without notice), they’ll just ship me a free VAIO laptop. Wheee!
IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY SIGNED UP, DO NOT SIGN UP FOR EZLAPTOP.COM.
Now, if they don’t close up shop and run off with my $5 before then, I’ll go ahead and advertise my book through them; their rates are reasonable, and I know people will click through. Anyone else can recommend some ‘captive audience’ ad click-through ‘services’ … preferably those that have already been verified are not scams… that I could advertise Lost and Not Found via? I’d like to get the word out to as many people as possible, when the time comes.
And now, to sleep, for in the morning I must wake early to do some hard labor before a day of retail followed by a little more hard labor. Happy birthday to me!
IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY SIGNED UP, DO NOT SIGN UP FOR EZLAPTOP.COM.
(Seriously, click the banner and gamble your $5. Everyone who signs up from my banner gets me 2 extra ‘credits’. It’ll be like a little mini birthday present for me, that might turn out to be worth a laptop, if they find enough advertisers and you can stomach clicking through their links three times a week.)
oops, hit post instead of preview.
now to finish, if my account is or was deleted, I should no longer be on their member list and thus should not recieve any more newsletters,
sound about right to you??
oops, hit post instead of preview.
now to finish, if my account is or was deleted, I should no longer be on their member list and thus should not recieve any more newsletters,
sound about right to you??
no i am talking about if you have more than 10 referals your account gets deleted i read it in terms of use or their policy w/e you call that thing
no i am talking about if you have more than 10 referals your account gets deleted i read it in terms of use or their policy w/e you call that thing
I must say that I went and joined EZlaptop in good faith. After I joined and paid the five dollars I came across this message board. Normally I do my homework on things like this, but my wife came across the site and I thought that I would try it since I need a new laptop.
Getting to my point, after I joined and read the bad press about the site I sent a e-mail to them asking them (and suggesting a page where they list members who have received their laptop to counter act this bad pr) if anyone has received a laptop yet. I explained that I did read the terms of service (which I love how they covered themselves) and understood it. This was their reply:
— EZLaptop
I must say that I went and joined EZlaptop in good faith. After I joined and paid the five dollars I came across this message board. Normally I do my homework on things like this, but my wife came across the site and I thought that I would try it since I need a new laptop.
Getting to my point, after I joined and read the bad press about the site I sent a e-mail to them asking them (and suggesting a page where they list members who have received their laptop to counter act this bad pr) if anyone has received a laptop yet. I explained that I did read the terms of service (which I love how they covered themselves) and understood it. This was their reply:
— EZLaptop
i got my account setup finally and im proud to say im feeling good got 5 credits and i dont plan on refering ppl because most likely my referal link will get out and be used over 10 times
i got my account setup finally and im proud to say im feeling good got 5 credits and i dont plan on refering ppl because most likely my referal link will get out and be used over 10 times
i got my account setup finally and im proud to say im feeling good got 5 credits and i dont plan on refering ppl because most likely my referal link will get out and be used over 10 times
i got my account setup finally and im proud to say im feeling good got 5 credits and i dont plan on refering ppl because most likely my referal link will get out and be used over 10 times
Well, I don’t know what’s going on with this site, but I guess I will, like everyone else, sit back and wait and see. I joined almost 3 months ago and am just now at 52 credits. I have never clicked the same link more than once and logged in (I have accidentally clicked the same link twice one time when I got 2 newsletters on the same day with one of them saying another one, but when I accidentally clicked the link again, I did not login, and therefore did not get any additional credits I did not deserve).
I have never changed #’s in their links, and I have never, nor will I ever, give out my referral link. I have done some word of mouth advertising for them to a few friends of mine, but I haven’t given them my referral link or member #, so I won’t receive referral points if they ever join.
Well, I don’t know what’s going on with this site, but I guess I will, like everyone else, sit back and wait and see. I joined almost 3 months ago and am just now at 52 credits. I have never clicked the same link more than once and logged in (I have accidentally clicked the same link twice one time when I got 2 newsletters on the same day with one of them saying another one, but when I accidentally clicked the link again, I did not login, and therefore did not get any additional credits I did not deserve).
I have never changed #’s in their links, and I have never, nor will I ever, give out my referral link. I have done some word of mouth advertising for them to a few friends of mine, but I haven’t given them my referral link or member #, so I won’t receive referral points if they ever join.
Well, I guess this site will be our meeting place. I have a big 7 credits as I just started….so my report won’t be for quite some time. I am betting this is a scam, and if it is then we will have a record and a way to contact each other for a class action lawsuit….we could get our $5 back after 10 years! hehhee
Well, I guess this site will be our meeting place. I have a big 7 credits as I just started….so my report won’t be for quite some time. I am betting this is a scam, and if it is then we will have a record and a way to contact each other for a class action lawsuit….we could get our $5 back after 10 years! hehhee
If you think about it and its a scam and we all just say who cares its only 5 bucks u then have to think about how many ppl have said that so really that 5 bucks has turned into thousands of dollars but technically you cannot do anything about it because all you did was purchase an ebook and the laptop is a “free gift” and by the way the site has changed to ezlaptop.net incase some of you dont know yet
If you think about it and its a scam and we all just say who cares its only 5 bucks u then have to think about how many ppl have said that so really that 5 bucks has turned into thousands of dollars but technically you cannot do anything about it because all you did was purchase an ebook and the laptop is a “free gift” and by the way the site has changed to ezlaptop.net incase some of you dont know yet
I have not downloaded the ebook….what is it?
I have not downloaded the ebook….what is it?
Boy am I glad I found this forum! I have signed up with EZlaptop.com at the begining of this month. I was about to post my referral link online when I realized that you could no longer access the site. Now I have found that it is http://www.ezlaptop.net. I’ve decided not refer anyone and to play it safe by ony doing the newsletter links and see what happens.
I have a couple of questions that I hope someone has the answer to.
1. Ivan: you posted the following
“I know other site which is better then ezlaptop and have lot of deals. And it’s owner is not a cheater and a honest Man!
http://www.supereasystuff.com/?ref=481&deal=3”
Does anyone know if this works? Has anyone received any product?
2. I also see some ads on eBay for a link where you can get a laptop for $22.00. Does anyone know about this site and if it works? If you have a referral link please post or email it to me.
Thanks!
Betty
Boy am I glad I found this forum! I have signed up with EZlaptop.com at the begining of this month. I was about to post my referral link online when I realized that you could no longer access the site. Now I have found that it is http://www.ezlaptop.net. I’ve decided not refer anyone and to play it safe by ony doing the newsletter links and see what happens.
I have a couple of questions that I hope someone has the answer to.
1. Ivan: you posted the following
“I know other site which is better then ezlaptop and have lot of deals. And it’s owner is not a cheater and a honest Man!
http://www.supereasystuff.com/?ref=481&deal=3“
Does anyone know if this works? Has anyone received any product?
2. I also see some ads on eBay for a link where you can get a laptop for $22.00. Does anyone know about this site and if it works? If you have a referral link please post or email it to me.
Thanks!
Betty
The Hell with all this free laptop crap. NO COMPANY is going to give free laptops away. ITS A SCAM…..Don’t fall for this and save your 5 bucks.
The Hell with all this free laptop crap. NO COMPANY is going to give free laptops away. ITS A SCAM…..Don’t fall for this and save your 5 bucks.
Well, I have not signed up yet, but the laptops are not really free at all. Every link you click earns them money, so if it is a scam, then they are making a lot more than $5/member. Oh well, remember the old adage: “If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!”
Ciao,
DJM
Well, I have not signed up yet, but the laptops are not really free at all. Every link you click earns them money, so if it is a scam, then they are making a lot more than $5/member. Oh well, remember the old adage: “If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!”
Ciao,
DJM
Just sent this email to ezlaptop (new addy is ezlaptop.net for those who don’t know)
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The following is a quote from your Terms Of Service:
“An EZLaptop.net customer is welcomed only 1 account per house hold! We do this to ensure quality in our system, and for honesty. Your IP is recorded every time you sign-up. If the same IP is caught twice or more, both accounts will be shutdown immediately and be offered no refund! This is strictly against our rules.”
You cannot judge this on an IP basis. Most modern ISPs do not assig a fixed address to each customer, so I could sign up using my account with ispA and then joeschmo could connect the next day and get the same dynamicly assigned IP from ispA and sign up, at which point we would both be deleted. This is an unethical and probably illegal practice. Face it, if you do things like this your little company will go under because no one will ever succeed in getting a laptop, and you will be forced out of business. If you want to succeed, then HELP your customers instead of hindering them. Also the spelling erros in your ToS make it look very unprofessional, and people are more likely to think it is a scam, myself included. At this point in time I will not sign up until you can prove to the general public this is not a scam, and change your ToS so that people who sign up from a dynamicly assigned IP are NOT considered “cheaters”.
DJM
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What Iquoted in this email is another way a lot of you are being accused of “cheating” 90% of ISPs use dynamic ips for their customers. I have cable internet, and I get 1 static IP for the USB connection to the modem, and a dynamic IP via Ethernet to the cable modem. I connect 2 computers, personal and server this way. If I was to sign up via my personal with it’s dynamic IP, then tell my friend who has same ISP on the other side of the country, he and I would likely lose our accounts. This is total bullshit and I let em know it. If no one here gets their laptop I have a friend who is a lawyer, I will take it to him and find out about a class action lawsuite, just to fuck this guy as bad as he has done his members!!
Ciao,
DJM
Just sent this email to ezlaptop (new addy is ezlaptop.net for those who don’t know)
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The following is a quote from your Terms Of Service:
“An EZLaptop.net customer is welcomed only 1 account per house hold! We do this to ensure quality in our system, and for honesty. Your IP is recorded every time you sign-up. If the same IP is caught twice or more, both accounts will be shutdown immediately and be offered no refund! This is strictly against our rules.”
You cannot judge this on an IP basis. Most modern ISPs do not assig a fixed address to each customer, so I could sign up using my account with ispA and then joeschmo could connect the next day and get the same dynamicly assigned IP from ispA and sign up, at which point we would both be deleted. This is an unethical and probably illegal practice. Face it, if you do things like this your little company will go under because no one will ever succeed in getting a laptop, and you will be forced out of business. If you want to succeed, then HELP your customers instead of hindering them. Also the spelling erros in your ToS make it look very unprofessional, and people are more likely to think it is a scam, myself included. At this point in time I will not sign up until you can prove to the general public this is not a scam, and change your ToS so that people who sign up from a dynamicly assigned IP are NOT considered “cheaters”.
DJM
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What Iquoted in this email is another way a lot of you are being accused of “cheating” 90% of ISPs use dynamic ips for their customers. I have cable internet, and I get 1 static IP for the USB connection to the modem, and a dynamic IP via Ethernet to the cable modem. I connect 2 computers, personal and server this way. If I was to sign up via my personal with it’s dynamic IP, then tell my friend who has same ISP on the other side of the country, he and I would likely lose our accounts. This is total bullshit and I let em know it. If no one here gets their laptop I have a friend who is a lawyer, I will take it to him and find out about a class action lawsuite, just to fuck this guy as bad as he has done his members!!
Ciao,
DJM
hmmmm it apppears there site is down again and i havent recieved a news letter in a while i think the guy thought he was in too deep now and left with his money to canada lol
hmmmm it apppears there site is down again and i havent recieved a news letter in a while i think the guy thought he was in too deep now and left with his money to canada lol
Remember, its not ezlaptop.com anymore, its ezlaptop.net, and site is working fine.
Ciao,
DJM
Remember, its not ezlaptop.com anymore, its ezlaptop.net, and site is working fine.
Ciao,
DJM
Any1 else notice that they haven’t sent out and email for almost a week now? I thought that was kind of weird since im supposed to get 3 a week. If I don’t get one by tomorrow I am going to email tech support and see what they have to say
Any1 else notice that they haven’t sent out and email for almost a week now? I thought that was kind of weird since im supposed to get 3 a week. If I don’t get one by tomorrow I am going to email tech support and see what they have to say
What’s up everyone. I made the idiot move of signing up for this scam last night without researching it first. Then I went onto various message groups such as this one and found out it was a scam. So today, I emailed ezlaptopdotnet@aol.com and basically said that they better refund my money, and if they don’t, I will document on video every single ad I open to prove that I didn’t cheat. If they don’t send me a laptop after that I will take legal action and put together a class action lawsuit. Here’s the response I got:
Thank you for contacting EZLaptop.
No worries, we honor our customers request and we’ll refund your payment. We need the name on your PayPal account and the date of the transaction. We also need the name and e-mail address that was on file with your EZLaptop account.
Thank you,
EZLaptop
I guess I scared them a little. Maybe some of you should try this if you want your $5 back. Anyways, just thought I’d share that.
What’s up everyone. I made the idiot move of signing up for this scam last night without researching it first. Then I went onto various message groups such as this one and found out it was a scam. So today, I emailed ezlaptopdotnet@aol.com and basically said that they better refund my money, and if they don’t, I will document on video every single ad I open to prove that I didn’t cheat. If they don’t send me a laptop after that I will take legal action and put together a class action lawsuit. Here’s the response I got:
Thank you for contacting EZLaptop.
No worries, we honor our customers request and we’ll refund your payment. We need the name on your PayPal account and the date of the transaction. We also need the name and e-mail address that was on file with your EZLaptop account.
Thank you,
EZLaptop
I guess I scared them a little. Maybe some of you should try this if you want your $5 back. Anyways, just thought I’d share that.
“We honor our customers request and we’ll refund your payment”. LOL! Scared them a little? That guy was trembling!
Anyways, this just proves that it’s a scam. For those who didn’t believe it, that it :).
“We honor our customers request and we’ll refund your payment”. LOL! Scared them a little? That guy was trembling!
Anyways, this just proves that it’s a scam. For those who didn’t believe it, that it :).
Hello Everyone,
here is a little follow-up for you.
finally got a response from sle-ezlaptop after about 10 emails and only after threatening with legal action, I was told that I had breached the contract with more than 10 referrals and my account had been suspended and that I would not be recieving my laptop, I then responded with a quote to a previous email asking if “we could speed up the process some way” and was told to get more referrals, and if any of you recall when ezlaptop first came on the scene there was nothing in there policy of limit of referrals only that the more we got the faster we got the laptop, they actually encouraged you to get as many as possible to promote their site, I guess in their hindsight that wasn’t a good idea which brought on the policy change.I then requested a list of how many referrals I had recieved not asking for names just how many, which for whatever reason I can’t have, I then threatened legal action again only to recieve an email informing me that my paypal account has been credited 5.00 + the paypal user fee .46 (whoopi.)
and a short note “We’re sorry about your account. Here’s a refund for your account” so there you go I believe nobody will ever get a laptop because the policies will always change in ezlaptop’s favour as they did with me I had those referral credits (approx 12 that I know of)before the policy change, now thats just not right. but anyway it’s not the five bucks but the whole principal of it you can’t be legit if you don’t run your business legit so I’am thinking I will start sending messages to all the links I recieved informing them because most of them seem legit and I don’t think they will want to associate with ezlaptop after knowing what they are, after all they are paying for the laptop, not ezlaptop.
Tim
Hello Everyone,
here is a little follow-up for you.
finally got a response from sle-ezlaptop after about 10 emails and only after threatening with legal action, I was told that I had breached the contract with more than 10 referrals and my account had been suspended and that I would not be recieving my laptop, I then responded with a quote to a previous email asking if “we could speed up the process some way” and was told to get more referrals, and if any of you recall when ezlaptop first came on the scene there was nothing in there policy of limit of referrals only that the more we got the faster we got the laptop, they actually encouraged you to get as many as possible to promote their site, I guess in their hindsight that wasn’t a good idea which brought on the policy change.I then requested a list of how many referrals I had recieved not asking for names just how many, which for whatever reason I can’t have, I then threatened legal action again only to recieve an email informing me that my paypal account has been credited 5.00 + the paypal user fee .46 (whoopi.)
and a short note “We’re sorry about your account. Here’s a refund for your account” so there you go I believe nobody will ever get a laptop because the policies will always change in ezlaptop’s favour as they did with me I had those referral credits (approx 12 that I know of)before the policy change, now thats just not right. but anyway it’s not the five bucks but the whole principal of it you can’t be legit if you don’t run your business legit so I’am thinking I will start sending messages to all the links I recieved informing them because most of them seem legit and I don’t think they will want to associate with ezlaptop after knowing what they are, after all they are paying for the laptop, not ezlaptop.
Tim
Heres another one for you all.
ezlaptop even closed out my rollover account which had a clean 12 credits in it.
can’t even log in now, gees been barred before but never from a website, thats a first for me.
Heres another one for you all.
ezlaptop even closed out my rollover account which had a clean 12 credits in it.
can’t even log in now, gees been barred before but never from a website, thats a first for me.
Anyone wanting to contact them, this is their business contact info from my paypal account
webmaster@OURDOMAIN.NET
Anyone wanting to contact them, this is their business contact info from my paypal account
webmaster@OURDOMAIN.NET
Haven’t received an ad in a week or so, anyone else getting the cold shoulder?
Haven’t received an ad in a week or so, anyone else getting the cold shoulder?
i did but the bastards didn’t put a link to get my credits in it
i did but the bastards didn’t put a link to get my credits in it
You know, this guy is pretty stupid actually. I were him (which thank god cannot be), I would have sent at least one laptop to someone, who’s posting messages against me in the forums. So that way everyone would have shut up for soem time, waiting for their laptops to arrive and everyone will be content.
But no, this guy is so greedy, that he actually is blinded. I’ll probably request my $5 any time soon and if I don’t get them back, I’ll make sure that noone will ever join his site. Even if I have to spend money for it :).
You know, this guy is pretty stupid actually. I were him (which thank god cannot be), I would have sent at least one laptop to someone, who’s posting messages against me in the forums. So that way everyone would have shut up for soem time, waiting for their laptops to arrive and everyone will be content.
But no, this guy is so greedy, that he actually is blinded. I’ll probably request my $5 any time soon and if I don’t get them back, I’ll make sure that noone will ever join his site. Even if I have to spend money for it :).
Well, I have recieved no reply to the email message I posted above. I’m filing with the better business bureau, and I suggest you all do the same. Lets get some legal litigation going against this guy. http://www.bbb.org to file online.
Ciao,
DJM
Well, I have recieved no reply to the email message I posted above. I’m filing with the better business bureau, and I suggest you all do the same. Lets get some legal litigation going against this guy. http://www.bbb.org to file online.
Ciao,
DJM